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  Org's Data Protection Document - Question

  by The Fall Guy in

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  are "inactive" publishers being asked to sign it, or is it only for "active" ones?.

  i haven't been troubled by any of the local jw stasi about it.

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  I haven't been to a "cover" meeting in months! I'd better show face soon. Maybe then they'll ask me to sign. :)
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  Org's Data Protection Document - Question

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  are "inactive" publishers being asked to sign it, or is it only for "active" ones?.

  i haven't been troubled by any of the local jw stasi about it.

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  Are "inactive" publishers being asked to sign it, or is it only for "active" ones?

  I haven't been troubled by any of the local JW Stasi about it.
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  JWs & "generations"

  by Magnum in

  1. watchtower
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  we all know what a mess the jw "generation" teachings have been.

  but, there is one hard and fast truth concerning jws and "generations" - that is, that many generations of jws have died without the realization of the hope they were promised.. there were many before my grandfather's time, but i'm going to start with his.

  his generation, his peers, lived at a time when jwdom was exciting, bold, confident, seemingly deeper and scholarly, seemingly genuinely concerned about the preaching work and saving lives.

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  The very first talk at the convention this year is now telling the present generation of JW's to expect the end soon.

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6618103304683520/anybody-know-if-full-programme-convention-available-video

  JW's clearly believe that "soon" is a bungee word - it can be stretched to be as long as necessary.
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  Musical Chairs in Bristol England = £1 million sterling!

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the congregation shuffle rolls on in bristol england, and a cool £1million is to be made for watchtower britain.. bristol - hengrove has been disbanded as of may 2018 and is now merged into one of the prime real estate parts of the city in an area called clifton, with bristol-redland congregation of jw's.

  the hall is an old victorian building, bought and paid for by redland since the late 1940's, although since then, bristol has seen expansion up until the 1990's to about 12 plus congregations in about 7 kingdom halls, and then reduced to 5 kingdom halls and 10 congregations.

  redland has always stood alone with one congregation in it's hall.

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  I haven't a clue - and don't call me Shirley!
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  Anybody know if the full programme of convention available in video ?

  by BluesBrother in

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  just the above...... in recent times the full sessions have found their way onto youtube.

  i have not found it this time.

  it has been geatly appreciated.

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  Wow! Very first speaker introduces brief video of Samuel Herd, (GB) who proceeds to warn JW's that they need to have courage -

  a) "as world's conditions worsen"

  b) "soon, the world will experience the foretold great tribulation"

  c) and that the convention "helps you to be prepared for what lies just ahead."

  At the end of the GB video, the speaker adds to the fearmongering by saying, "Let me ask you first to get us started; Do you consider yourself a courageous individual? Do you feel that you have the.....strength in the face of....danger."

  Put terror into all of the JW's minds and the minds of their children - right from the word 'Go.'

  Enjoy the 3 days of your fear-inspiring conventions JW's, and arrive home spiritually refreshed as you await the appearance of the possible horrors predicted by the "faltering slave."
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  Musical Chairs in Bristol England = £1 million sterling!

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the congregation shuffle rolls on in bristol england, and a cool £1million is to be made for watchtower britain.. bristol - hengrove has been disbanded as of may 2018 and is now merged into one of the prime real estate parts of the city in an area called clifton, with bristol-redland congregation of jw's.

  the hall is an old victorian building, bought and paid for by redland since the late 1940's, although since then, bristol has seen expansion up until the 1990's to about 12 plus congregations in about 7 kingdom halls, and then reduced to 5 kingdom halls and 10 congregations.

  redland has always stood alone with one congregation in it's hall.

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  The congregation shuffle rolls on in Bristol England, and a cool £1million is to be made for Watchtower Britain.
  

  Bristol - Hengrove has been disbanded as of May 2018 and is now merged into one of the prime real estate parts of the city in an area called Clifton, with Bristol-Redland congregation of JW's.

  The hall is an old Victorian building, bought and paid for by Redland since the late 1940's, although since then, Bristol has seen expansion up until the 1990's to about 12 plus congregations in about 7 Kingdom Halls, and then reduced to 5 Kingdom Halls and 10 congregations. Redland has always stood alone with one congregation in it's hall.
  

  As of September 2018 the Redland congregation is being kicked out of its £1,000,000 value building and moved lock stock and barrel to a rough northern suburb called Southmead and being forced to share with two other congregations in a nondescript 1970's brick built kingdom hall worth about £250,000.

  To facilitate this, the Almondsbury congregation is being booted out of the Southmead building and moved out of the circuit into the next one and the inmates will have to drive north to share with Thornbury (who will now have to share for the first time)
  

  There are other shuffles going on, but the net result is that WT gets the proceeds of £1 million (estimate) when Redland's hall is sold.
  
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  Little Gems From the Forked-Tongue of the "Faithful slave"

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if you don't accept the wtbts's snake poison, it become a constrictor and crushes your "powers of discernment" (hebrews 5:14).

  w69 3/15 p. 166 why it is wise to examine your religion; we need to examine, not only what we personally believe, but also what is taught by any religious organization with which we may be associated.

  are its teachings in full harmony with god’s word, or are they based on the traditions of men?

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  Hi DOC, thanks for the suggestion, but as the cult used to teach me in the Ministry School, "Repetition for emphasis."

  Trying to stress to anyone ensnared by the org that their revered "faithful slave" does not allow its adherents to discuss or test the hierarchy's dogma - while preaching the opposite to all non-JW's.
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  Little Gems From the Forked-Tongue of the "Faithful slave"

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if you don't accept the wtbts's snake poison, it become a constrictor and crushes your "powers of discernment" (hebrews 5:14).

  w69 3/15 p. 166 why it is wise to examine your religion; we need to examine, not only what we personally believe, but also what is taught by any religious organization with which we may be associated.

  are its teachings in full harmony with god’s word, or are they based on the traditions of men?

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  If you don't accept the WTBTS's snake poison, it become a constrictor and crushes your "powers of discernment" (Hebrews 5:14)

  w69 3/15 p. 166 Why It Is Wise to Examine Your Religion; We need to examine, not only what we personally believe, but also what is taught by any religious organization with which we may be associated. Are its teachings in full harmony with God’s Word, or are they based on the traditions of men? If we are lovers of the truth, there is nothing to fear from such an examination. It should be the sincere desire of every one of us to learn.........

  (km 9/07 p. 3 Question Box - Does “the faithful and discreet slave” endorse independent groups of Witnesses who meet together to engage in Scriptural research.....? No, it does not.)

  w74 1/15 p. 35 - When persons are in great danger from a source that they do not suspect or are being misled by those they consider their friends, is it an unkindness to warn them? They may prefer not to believe the warning. They may even resent it. But does that free one from the moral responsibility to give that warning?....It would have been far easier to keep silent or say only what people wanted to hear. But faithfulness to God and love of neighbor moved them to speak.

  (km 9/07 p. 3 Question Box - Does “the faithful and discreet slave” endorse independent groups of Witnesses who meet together to engage in Scriptural research.....? No, it does not.)

  g84 8/22 p. 28 - The Catholic church [or WTBTS]........occupies a very significant position in the world and claims to be the way of salvation for....millions of people. Any organization that assumes that position should be willing to submit to scrutiny and criticism.

  (km 9/07 p. 3 Question Box - Does “the faithful and discreet slave” endorse independent groups of Witnesses who meet together to engage in Scriptural research.....? No, it does not.)

  g91 4/8 p. 23 - Test your beliefs against God’s Word. Honest self-examination, comparing your beliefs with the Scriptures..................

  (km 9/07 p. 3 Question Box - Does “the faithful and discreet slave” endorse independent groups of Witnesses who meet together to engage in Scriptural research.....? No, it does not.)

  sm pp. 17-18 par. 8 - Hence, a wise man will examine the things he has received from his parents, including his religion. He will keep the good things and reject those things that are not good. This is essential if he is to find the truth about religion.

  (km 9/07 p. 3 Question Box - Does “the faithful and discreet slave” endorse independent groups of Witnesses who meet together to engage in Scriptural research.....? No, it does not.)

  bh chap. 11 pp. 110-112 pars. 12-15 - Imagine that a teacher is telling his students how to solve a difficult problem. A clever....student claims that the teacher’s way of solving the problem is wrong. What should the teacher do?....suppose that the teacher allows the rebel to show the class how he would solve the problem...he knows that allowing them the opportunity to try to prove their point will benefit the whole class. When the rebels fail, all honest students will see that the teacher is the only one qualified to lead the class....consider two things that the teacher in our illustration would not do............he would not stop the rebel student from presenting his case.

  (km 9/07 p. 3 Question Box - Does “the faithful and discreet slave” endorse independent groups of Witnesses who meet together to engage in Scriptural research.....? No, it does not.)
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  JW Dogma Analysis For Lurkers & Faders to Consider

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this post is necessarily lengthy, but my hope is that these 14 examples of wtbts dogma will be examined closely by those who either have something to gain by doing so, or those who can provide "new light" for any of the topics.. "however, you may say in your heart: “how will we know that jehovah has not spoken the word?” when the prophet speaks in the name of jehovah and the word is not....true, then jehovah did not speak that word.

  you should not fear him.

  " [the prophet] (deuteronomy 18:21-22) .

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  Worked for me!
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  JW Dogma Analysis For Lurkers & Faders to Consider

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
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  this post is necessarily lengthy, but my hope is that these 14 examples of wtbts dogma will be examined closely by those who either have something to gain by doing so, or those who can provide "new light" for any of the topics.. "however, you may say in your heart: “how will we know that jehovah has not spoken the word?” when the prophet speaks in the name of jehovah and the word is not....true, then jehovah did not speak that word.

  you should not fear him.

  " [the prophet] (deuteronomy 18:21-22) .

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  p.s.

  w69 3/15 p. 166 Why It Is Wise to Examine Your Religion - "We need to examine, not only what we personally believe, but also what is taught by any religious organization with which we may be associated. Are its teachings in full harmony with God’s Word, or are they based on the traditions of men? If we are lovers of the truth, there is nothing to fear from such an examination."

  Wise words from the "slave." :)